Franklin County: Edward McPherson to [unknown],
                    October 18, 1860
Summary:
Edward McPherson responds to an incorrect rumor linking him in a conversation
                    with Judge Stephen Douglas. McPherson explains that he only overheard Douglas in
                    a conversation with someone else.
Oct. 18/60-
Gettysburg (Pa)
Dear Sir --
Your letter of 16th inst., gave me the first information I received on the subject to which it refers.-- It greatly surprised me to find my name connected with an arraignment of Judge Douglas, and to observe the manner in which it has occurred. I am very unwilling to be involved in the contest now going on between rival interests in the Democratic party, but the publicity [deleted: attached to the affair] given it, & your request, appear to make it proper for me to [deleted: write the delegate] state a few words of explanation.
I had a conversation with Alfred E. Lewis, Esq., on the [deleted: street] public square in Gettysburg, recently after my return from Wa in June. It was
                    casual, hurried & brief. It was also unreserved, as is the intercourse
                    between personal friends--- It was [added: also] made
                    without the slightest idea that 
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it wd.
                    ever [unclear: read] the public [added: &
                        be used as a political lever].-- In that conversation I alluded to the
                    probabilities of W. [illeg.]
                    [illeg.] the people, to the [unclear: ultimate] possible
                    co-operation of some of the Douglas men, and to the preferences of Judge Douglas
                    himself.-- In this connexion I made the remark
                    which he either misapprehended, or inaccurately remembered.-- This brings me to
                    the leading point.--
I never had a conversation with Judge Douglas on politics.-- At Sen. Carr's party, [added: however,] on the Evening of May 18, I was standing in the
                    refreshment-room with friends, in the immediate vicinity of Judge Douglas who
                    was in Earnest & [illeg.] conversation with an officer of the
                    Army or Navy, whose name I do not know.-- I was [added: first] attracted by the [illeg.] of the Judge's manner [deleted: and the]. He was replying to a question concerning the [added: then recent] nomination of Mr. Lincoln [deleted: then recent], whom the Judge [added: referred to in compelling terms,] & the strength of whose
                    nomination he freely [illeg.]. The conversation soon turned on the
                    condition of the Sen. party, its rememberment of
                    Charleston, 
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 & its future.-- Among other points, was the
                    probability of the election going to the House -- Judge Douglas said with great
                    positiveness, that it never would go to the House, & that, if necessary,
                    the NorthWest could be a [unclear: writ] to present it.-- The inference
                    I drew was that it wd
                    [added: ready] be a writ for
                        Lincoln, as [added: neither he nor any one else
                        could possibly hope to do or [illeg.]
                        [illeg.]] he could not make it it a writ for any other
                    candidate.
At the same time, the Juge made some heated remarks about the Southern ultras, whose course had deprived him of the nomination at Charleston, & who threatened to fight him to the bitter end. He said, & repeated it with emphasis and marked gesture, that he wd. rather see a "Free Nigger" Pres-t. than one of them.--
The Judge's remarks were not such as would easily be forgotten, & they
                    impressed themselves upon my memory.-- I mentioned the incident to but few
                    persons, & scarcely ever in detail.-- [deleted: I alluded to it in
                        a general way to Mr. Lewis, as we of the [illeg.] that time, I have
                        had little doubt that there wd. be an election of
                        the people, or that Abraham Lincoln wd. be chosen.--]
                    
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 I give it now, because it appears to be of some importance that I
                        shd state [deleted: precisely]
                    [added: (as you request)] precisely the facts.--
I have the honor to be
yours ty
Edwd McPherson
